Added: Thursday, 07 August 2008, 08:36 PM Mecca time, 05:36 PM GMT
Un_Owen, Toronto, Canada - Perhaps you should re-visit International Law? As Israel is an occupier, and even recognizes themselves as an occupying force, there are VERY SPECIFIC laws that apply to them. VERY SPECIFIC. However, there are VERY SPECIFIC laws that apply to all of the combat going on in Israel & Palestine currently. Quite frankly, I've pointed out at least fifty times that BOTH sides are CONSISTENTLY breaking 'International Laws' AND 'Laws of Combat' and that NEITHER SIDE is even remotely innocent. I think it is interesting how many people are so heavily invested in ONE side of the battle that REFUSE to step back and look at the issue WITHOUT bias. People like yourself and Andrew can't see any more guilt in Israel than people like Angela and Elise can see in Palestine. There is SO MUCH BIAS prevalent in your arguments that NONE OF YOU recognize the fact that your own argument could easily be turned against those you are backing! Grow up, step back, focus!
Nicholas, Atlanta, United States
Added: Thursday, 07 August 2008, 04:42 PM Mecca time, 01:42 PM GMT
‘the man from Yemen’ - rezasantorini, Chicago, United States. With CIA around, the third world countries have to be on their guards. Look what General Dayton, David Welsh and Feltman did in Lebanon and Palestine. Corruption is everywhere: even Olmert has been found to be corrupt. As for freedom of speech, I don’t find anybody putting pressure on me: there are tens of newspapers writing whatever they like and we have churches and freedom of religion. You call Gat a drug: just look around you and you will find all sorts of drugs and crimes. Calling a guy who has been sober all his life as not of a sound mind is ridiculous. All my opinions are based on western sources. Come back with something else.
Gim, Aden, Yemen
Added: Wednesday, 06 August 2008, 06:14 PM Mecca time, 03:14 PM GMT
the man from Yemen should realize that his country has one of the lowest quality of respect for human rights according to the UN. The government and its security forces, often considered to suffer from rampant corruption, have been responsible for torture, inhumane treatment and even extrajudicial executions. There are arbitrary arrests of citizens, especially in the south, as well as arbitrary searches of homes. Prolonged pretrial detention is a serious problem, and judicial corruption, inefficiency, and executive interference undermine due process. Freedom of speech, the press and religion are all restricted. This does not address the general use of chewing Gat, a drug. So it is possible what he has to say is not of a sound mind. Additionally, he'd not have a source for an opinion other than anti-Israel.
rezasantorini, Chicago, United States
Added: Wednesday, 06 August 2008, 03:32 AM Mecca time, 12:32 AM GMT
Gim, Yemen: Would the Palestinians (Hamas, et.al.) "walk the walk" if they could?
Robwash, Los Angeles, United States
Added: Monday, 04 August 2008, 05:30 PM Mecca time, 02:30 PM GMT
‘Gim, Aden, Yemen.. Building in and around Jerusalem cannot be percieved as illegal under international law.. The only parties to international law are states. Israel is a state, Palestine is not.. The UN mandate Jerusalem to itself, but UN is also not a state.. Soo just because you call it illegal, it does not mean it actually is illegal... The only laws that these builders should concern themselves with is Israeli law...’ - Un_Owen, Toronto, Canada. So Israel does believe in International law! Palestine is not a state: in fact Palestinians do not exist. UN is not a state and therefore Israel should not obey its resolutions except the resolution recognizing Israel. I as a Goyem have no right to say anything the Chosen do as illegal. The only laws that these builders should concern themselves with is the Chosen People’s law! Ya Panemayo.
Gim, Aden, Yemen
Added: Monday, 04 August 2008, 05:28 PM Mecca time, 02:28 PM GMT
Gim, Aden, Yemen. Stop trying to build straw-men... Palestine is not a state.. It is not a member of the United Nations. International law can only have states as parties.. You may see it as unjust, but that is the reality of it. Only states can be parties to international law. We are not discussing anything but Jerusalem settlements right now. It is against international law to occupy territory belonging to another state, but even if Palestine had been estate as the UN intended, Jeruslaem would be no part of it.. It is also against international law not to comply with binding UN resolutions. The international law however is very clear that non-binding resoultions (such as the ones dispropritonately lobbed as Israel) do not require compliance. Thus, nothign in international law requires Israel not to build these settlements, leaving Israeli law as the only legal framework. And stop trying to turn this into a national/religious debate, it makes you look like Angela
Un_Owen, Toronto, Canada
Added: Sunday, 03 August 2008, 11:25 PM Mecca time, 08:25 PM GMT
Gim, Aden, Yemen.. Building in and around Jerusalem cannot be percieved as illegal under international law.. The only parties to international law are states. Israel is a state, Palestine is not.. The UN mandate Jerusalem to itself, but UN is also not a state.. Soo just because you call it illegal, it does not mean it actually is illegal... The only laws that these builders should concern themselves with is Israeli law...
Un_Owen, Toronto, Canada
Added: Sunday, 03 August 2008, 12:04 PM Mecca time, 09:04 AM GMT
‘Someone said that the Arabs and Palestinians don't call for the destruction of Israel.’ - Robwash. Arab and Palestinians may talk the talk but Israel walks the walk. Check this out. “Illegal building is simply a pretext for destroying Palestinian families’ homes and lives,” said Jeff Halper, head of the Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions “The demolitions are part of a policy to stop the natural expansion of Palestinian communities in and around Jerusalem, freeing up the maximum amount of land for use by Israeli settlers,” Mr Halper said. “The demolitions increase the pressure on Palestinians to move into the West Bank, so that they will lose their residency rights in the city.” According to Mr Halper, however, the use of demolitions against Palestinians accused of illegal building is a far more significant problem. “We estimate that there have been at least 18,000 homes destroyed during the four decades of occupation.” See: PALESTINIANS FACE HOME DEMOLITIONS SPREE BY ISRAEL
Gim, Aden, Yemen
Added: Saturday, 02 August 2008, 12:28 PM Mecca time, 09:28 AM GMT
Robwash, Los Angeles, United States: you took my comments out of context. Someone said that the Arabs and Palestinians don't call for the destruction of Israel. I pointed out that this was the reason the PLO (not to mention Hamas and others) exist in the first place. ... Sorry about that then. I agree with you that it is a matter of fact that the PLO and Hamas have the destruction of Israel as a core tenet of their mission statements. Fair comment.
minsa, hemel hempstead, Great Britain (UK)
Added: Friday, 01 August 2008, 05:58 PM Mecca time, 02:58 PM GMT
When the Nazi's lost the war the Germans did not take over the land they "won" because it was part of the agreement in ending the war. When Pals lost the territory or land there was no peace agreement but a continuation of the war. Israel has not taken any land from Egypt or Jordan since the peace agreements and the reverse is true. There was an accord.
