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Opinion: Obama shares Bush's goals

Iran is likely to find US foreign policy will not change much if Obama wins the White House [GALLO/GETTY]

Barack Obama, the Democratic presidential candidate, has adopted the rhetoric of change which has captured the imagination of many Americans and non-Americans around the world.

But when it comes to the foreign policy, there are enough reasons to remain sceptical. Will he adopt a foreign policy with objectives which differ from those of George Bush, the current US president, or will he merely change Bush's strategies and tactics?

Some authors, like Raymond Aron, the French political theorist in his book, The Imperial Republic, hold that the US is essentially founded on two principles - Empire and Republic.

Its foreign policy, from the start, has consistently fallen between the tensions between Empire and Republic. In 1903, Beckles Willson made a similar argument in his book, The New America: A Study of the Imperial Republic.

National Endowment for Democracy

At the height of the Cold War, in 1983, Ronald Reagan, the late US president, ordered the establishment of the bi-partisan, private, and non-profit National Endowment for Democracy (NED).

"We must work hard for democracy and freedom, and that means putting our resources - organisations, sweat, and dollars - behind a long-term program," Reagan said in its inaugural speech.

"I just decided that this nation, with its heritage of Yankee traders, we ought to do a little selling of the principles of democracy," Reagan added.

NED's brief history shows that Reagan's notion of selling principles of democracy was in fact the practice of funding opposition groups in unfavourable states to destabilise and ideally topple their governments.

These governments would then be replaced with US-allied local politicians who in many cases had already risen to fame through the work of NED-funded local human rights, labour, or democracy NGOs.

Coups

Chavez survived a coup attempt thought to have been orchestrated elsewhere [EPA]
This has long been one of the main missions of the US intelligence organisations such as the CIA.

In fact, NED admits on its own website that what it is doing now was being done by the CIA: "When it was revealed in the late 1960's that some American PVO's [or NGOs, as they're called today] were receiving covert funding from the CIA to wage the battle of ideas at international forums, the Johnson Administration concluded that such funding should cease, recommending establishment of 'a public-private mechanism' to fund overseas activities openly."

The most famous example of NED's work came as a coup against Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, in 2002. But this eventually failed.

In Eastern Europe, however, NED's attempts have been more successful. In the past few years, Ukraine and Georgia's 'Orange and Rose revolutions' have effectively transformed the two countries into the most faithful American allies in Russia's backyard.

NED's funding and consultants, along with funds and support from similar American organisations, such as George Soros's Open Society Institute, largely contributed to their metamorphoses.

In fact, as reported in 2004 by The Guardian, NED and its subsidiaries such as the International Republican Institute (IRI), the National Democratic Institute (NDI), as well as United States Agency for International Development (USAID), Open Society Institute (OSI) and Freedom House were involved in financing and organising those campaigns in Serbia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Georgia.

Since 9/11, NED has expanded its operations in the Middle East and has slowly and quietly been training and expanding networks of pro-American civil society and human rights activists, journalists, and labour unions.

"Our future and the future of that region are linked", Bush said in a speech on the 20th anniversary of the establishment of NED.

NED in Iran

NED's interest in Iran was initiated in 1995 in the form of a fellowship programme.

Among the first group of Iranian Fellows was Haleh Esfandiari, whose research was focused on women's issues in Iran.

She later became the director of the Woodrow Wilson Centre's programme on the Middle East and kept close contact with Iranian women's NGOs. 

In 2007, she was detained and charged with "conspiring against the Islamic Republic of Iran", but was released on bail after three months. Interestingly, Senators Barack Obama and Joe Biden were among the senior US politicians who called the arrest unjust and explicitly demanded her release.

Around the same time of Esfandiari's detention, Kian Tajbakhsh, another Iranian-American was also detained, charged, and freed on bail.

The ministry of intelligence said he was identified with the help of Esfandiari as the representative of the OSI in Iran. OSI later confirmed in a statement that Tajbakhsh has been indeed a consultant to the organisation in Iran.

Ramin Jahanbegloo, who was a Reagan-Fascell fellow at the NED in 2001 and continued contributing to NED's Journal of Democracy, was detained in 2006 (according to the Iranian Fars News agency over his ties with NED) and was charged with acts threatening the state.

The Iranian ministry of intelligence, reported by IRNA, stated at the time that the Woodrow Wilson Centre's activities and programmes related to Iran were sponsored and financed by the Soros Foundation (or Open Society Institute) which had played a key role in the 'colour revolutions' in the former USSR republics in recent years. 

Obama and NED

Biden supports aggressive policies to replace "tyrants" with US-leaning democracies [AFP]
While Obama objects to military intervention, he is, like Bush, a big supporter of the kind of activity that NED is doing – and interestingly enough, more avidly than Bush.

In an interview with the Washington Post, Obama said that he would "significantly increase funding for the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and other non-governmental organisations to support civic activists in repressive societies."

He promised to "start a new Rapid Response Fund for young democracies and post-conflict societies that will provide foreign aid, debt relief, technical assistance and investment packages that show the people of newly hopeful countries that democracy and peace deliver, and the United States stands by them".

Joseph Biden, Obama's running mate is not much different. In an article for Washington Monthly in 2005, he criticised Bush for not putting his money where his mouth is: "Promoting democracy is tough sledding. We must go beyond rhetorical support and the passion of a single speech. It's one thing to topple a tyrant; it's another to put something better in his place."

"The most effective, sustainable way to advocate democracy is to help those moderates and modernisers on the inside build democratic institutions such as political parties, an independent judiciary, a free media, a modern education system, a civil society, non-governmental organisations (NGOs), and a private sector," Biden said.

It was the same Joseph Biden in 2002 who, in a ceremony for the NED's annual Democracy award, introduced Mehrangiz Kar, a 'reformist' Iranian women rights activist who now lives in the US.

Continuity

The similarities between Bush and Obama's view of the American role and duty towards the rest of the world might be striking, but for those whose concept of history goes beyond searching Google, there is no surprise.

In his book, Hegemony or Survival, Noam Chomsky cites John Stewart Mill, the British philosopher and one of the champions of the American notion of liberty, and shows how the same rhetoric of liberty and democracy has been used by the British Empire to justify its attempt to hegemony the world.

Mills describes England as "a novelty in the world" who is committed to create an "idealistic new world bent on ending inhumanity".

He refers to a selfless country that only acts "in the service of others", even though the fruits of its success will be shared "in fraternal equality with the whole human race".

Chomsky traces this non-partisan 'altruist' foreign policy in the US  back to Woodrow Wilson, who served two terms as the American president from 1913 to 1921.

"The primary principle of foreign policy, rooted in Wilsonian idealism and carried over from Clinton to Bush II is the imperative of America's mission as the vanguard of history, transforming the global order and, in doing so, perpetuating its own dominance," wrote Chomsky.

In his 1968 book, Woodrow Wilson and the Modern Amercian Empire, Gordon Levin, puts this eloquently: "The needs of America's expanding capitalism were joined ideologically with a more universal vision of American service to suffering humanity and to world stability."

Talking to Iran

When it comes to Iran, Obama's tactics indeed look quite different from Bush's - engagement versus isolation.

But their goals are no different; both want to replace the only independent oil-rich state in the Middle East with an obedient regime, similar to the infamous Anglo-American coup in 1953 when Iran nationalised its oil industry.

Obama's tactics are perhaps best articulated by Abbas Milani, an influential 'liberal' researcher on Iran who co-directs the Iran Democracy Project at the conservative Hoover Institute and is a supporter of Obama.

He said to the New Yorker Magazine in 2005 that the Americans should talk to Iran "but with the purpose of overthrowing them".

Hossein Derakhshan is a London-based media analyst and freelance journalist. He writes about Iran in a bilingual blog in Persian and English at hoder.com which is blocked by the Iranian government.

 Source: Al Jazeera
 
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Feedback Number of comments : 52
 
Selvin
United States
16/09/2008
Look, give Obama a chance here, because of his race, he has to walk a very delicate line to get INTO office. Once he makes it, this election rhetoric won't be an issue. Obama is nothing like the Bush Regime, but he has to convince some of these die hard racist in America that he's as tough as Bush and that he's not a threat to the status quoe. Unfortunantly, all African Americans have to dance this same dance just to make a living here.

hamza muhumed
Somalia
17/09/2008
the trouble makers,usa
Thanks aljazeera for making clear how the usa messes and troubles the world. You see guys, that why we hate usa. they dont like a country which is sufficient to its self, they give africa food to stay in poor. i hate usa

John Paul Jones
United States
17/09/2008
Focus: Opinion: Obama shares Bushs Goals
Great propoganda to begin demonizing a US President before he's even elected. Question: Whose goals does ALJAZEERA share? That of fair and blanced news...or just the FOX NEWS of the Middle East? The behavior on both sides is idiotic and in the long run...unsustainable. It's time the world realize...we are now ONE TRiBE......PEACE TO ALL..... PS Will you have the courage to post my comment? I hope so.....

Don Quixote
Spain
17/09/2008
Obama performed the same "Wailing wall ritual" as McCain. Now the "elite" behind (above) the White House uses something new, coloured people (Colin Powell, C. Rice, Obama and women, to perpetuate the illusion of change. No change will come, only appearances, cosmetic change. How naive are some people, specially Americans.

Patrick
United States
17/09/2008
Just like Bush
Obama is no different than Bush and McCain. None of them respect the sovereignty of other nations, instead thinking they can solve problems with invasions and explosions. The only just foreign policy is non-intervention. We cannot and should not play World Police, needlessly endangering our soldiers and doing irreparable damage to our reputation abroad. What does the world think when we preach freedom and democracy, but then impose foreign control and dictatorship?

Michael Hughes Dillon
Ireland
17/09/2008
Undoubtedly it will be hard for the new president to do as poor a job as Bush has done internationally. I believe it might be possible for Obama, were he to win, to do better, certainly internally. However, the USA needs to fight for its position in a changing world - empires need to be fed. Frankly as far as Mr Jones' statement goes, i find that laughable. Possibly he mistakes reporting which is not constrained by american ideologies as being 'propoganda'. This is ironic to say the least.

Susan
Canada
17/09/2008
The United Hates is No Leader
Putting it bluntly, the nearly impossible lesson the United Hates as to learn is that even look-alike Canadians next door would vomit at the notion of following the US anywhere. The US is an oligarchy, not at all the same as a democracy, and it knows nothing of even its own people, let alone others. The United Hates is madly in love with its own ignorance and arrogance. It lurches around the planet like a gangster in boots in everyone else's living room, and it has nothing to teach except greed.

Two Sentz
United States
17/09/2008
Obama Foreign Policy vs. Bush/McCain
I think at least Obama is better educated than either Bush and McCain and is also more level headed. He is less likely to authorise military action without the approval of congress as Bush was. Any foreign actions will be well thought out and hopefully backed internationally before proceeding.

steve dill
United States
17/09/2008
All Americans share basic beliefs
Irregardless of politics, most Americans share many basic beliefs: freedom of religion, tolerance of differing beliefs and diversity of thought. Moslem extremists also share many beliefs: unyeildng violent hatred of America and the West. Intolerance and total disrespect for differing viewpoints – even among other Moslems and also a totally fanatical obsession with destroying Israel – a country that has more right to exist than any other country on earth and a beacon of freedom in the Mideast.

Nick
United States
17/09/2008
obamas imperialism?
"The most effective, sustainable way to advocate democracy is to help those moderates and modernisers on the inside build democratic institutions such as political parties, an independent judiciary, a free media, a modern education system, a civil society, non-governmental organisations (NGOs), and a private sector," -Biden Seyyed Derakhshan, did you really use this as an example of imperialism? how could a fee media and an independent judiciary make a country obedient to the US?

Travis
United States
18/09/2008
Freedom??
Since when did freedom become such a deplorable idea in the international community? I understand that America should not run around toppling governments, but if we were to revert to protectionism then all of the people now leaving comments would complain about the US no longer standing up for its ideals that all people have certain inalienable rights, freedom being one of them.

Jim
United States
17/09/2008
Insidious imperialism
Obama's positions regarding overseas situations are somewhat surprising on one level but not on another. To be elected to virtually any position in the U.S. one has to accept the dogma of the "Establishment," with few exceptions. While Obama and McCain trumpet their differences, given the world's range of political diversity viewing the differences between the two in practice requires a microscope. While masquerading as individualists, in reality most Americans are diehard conformists

Barry Watts
Afghanistan
17/09/2008
Obama Shares Bushs Goals
I don't doubt any of the facts supplied in this article, but to suggest that Barack Obama has the same goals as George Bush is ludicrous. Some presidents have used their office to give increased power to the CIA and similar agencies, while other presidents have used their office to curtail and limit the power of these agencies. What the world must accept is that the US is in competition with other emerging empires and we are not just going to fade away because you don't like us.

BC
United States
18/09/2008
Yea...
Let's just hope he doesn't get elected!

Tafadzwa
Zimbabwe
17/09/2008
Obama-McCain-Bush ->One Goal
I've always suspected this of Obama, I mean, if you are truly speaking of REAL CHANGE America needs, how then is it that the US media promotes you? People of REAL CHANGE America needs like Ron Paul are vilified. If you find yourself agreeing on anything with the US media, even about climate change, then you should revise your thoughts and question yourself: why? Where am I betraying my long term goals?

kurt
United States
17/09/2008
local progress vs imperial influence
Hossein implies that the imperial thrust should be judged according to a single vector of local independence vs imperial influence. I suggest local progress, while hard to define, is of more value. Advance of liberal, salafi reformist, and minority Islamic trends is critical for tapping pluralist energy and defeating salafi & sunni terrorism. While the US favors liberals, there can be benefits utilized by all these trends. Obama will seek common objectives with the Iran govt & civil opposition

Robert Duncan
Afghanistan
17/09/2008
Obama
Every four years American voters are suckered into believing that you can chane the military/industrial elite who truly run this country and profit from the trillion dollar military budget and its logical outcome, war. Progressives may support Obam because e is from a seriously oppressed minority in this country, but let's not believe that he is anything but a captive of America's imperialist elite and policies.

mary stephens
United States
17/09/2008
embedded policy
I do not think this article stands to vilify or detract from Obama, but seeks to illuminate the silent threat to countries around the world. While U.S. military defense is on the rise, it is important to acknowledge the more subtle forms of imperialism (and perhaps more dangerous) as well. Organizations like NED, NDI, USAID (and a plethora of others), specifically target countries of US strategic interest and begin change from within. Countries should be aware of this type of imperialism.

Michael
United States
17/09/2008
Opinion: Obama shares Bushs goals
I would first of all like to congratulate and thank Al Jazeera for saying truths that the U S media would not touch. In the U S politicians often say one thing and do another and it is quite disgusting , but in this case I hope Obama will keep up that long standing American tradition. If the government did what most of us want , they would not support subversive organizations that interfere with other nations. So I am not sure democracy is even working here.

don
United States
17/09/2008
flashback from a book
funny how this article relates to john perkins story in "Confessions of an Economic hitman" its all about corporatocracy...

Joe
United States
17/09/2008
And this is news?
Any leader in any democratic country on the planet who has even a chance of getting elected will inevitably be part of the elite class. Of course Obama is pro - US hegemony. You couldn't get anywhere near that office without being so. He is not running for Pope or head of the UN. We haven't had a candidate for the people in ages. I merely vote AGAINST candidates not for candidates. Like the last two elections I will vote against the republicans not for the democrat - the lesser of two evils.

Someguy
United States
18/09/2008
Interesting
Rebuttal to my fellow American calling Al Jazeera "as bad as Fox news." First, perception is in the eye of the beholder. MANY countries and people believe that the NED is a US funded anti-government group that seeks to undermine government. And they did links a statement by Obama about the NED, so I don't know why you think this is propaganda. Finally you do realize that when Public Relations was in it's infancy they chose "public relations" instead of propaganda because it sounds better.

Mike
United States
18/09/2008
What Sources is the Article Based On?
"The most famous example of NED's work came as a coup against Hugo Chavez, the Venezuelan president, in 2002. But this eventually failed." In 2002, there were rumors that the US government was involved in the failed coup, but no concrete evidence (that I know of) ever emerged. Of course, the usual suspects spouted their speculative paranoia, but this is hardly proof. Statements like the above quote really need to have a source attached. How does the author know this is true?

Mike
United States
18/09/2008
Ignorant Analysis
Had Al Gore, John Kerry or Barack Obama (or for that matter, John McCain) been president in 2001, there would have been no US invasion of Iraq. Period. There is a difference between the candidates' foreign policies. If Obama is elected, will the editors of Aljazeera see every change they desire in US foriegn policy be implemented? Of course not, but this does not mean that an Obama presidency would be the same as a McCain foreign policy, this rambling chatter that passes for analysis aside.

Taylor
United States
19/09/2008
It is refreshing to read foreign analysis of American politics. I can't say I follow some of the conclusions the author draws from the evidence presented, but his worldview comes through regardless. I would advise my countrymen, in addition to learning how to spell, to just pay attention. No need to spout talking points here. Learn what the world thinks of us, even if those opinions seem unfounded.

Jim
United States
20/09/2008
McCain
It appears as if the rest of the world has placed their chips on Obama and already given up on McCain. I don't think the world should be so quick to judge McCain. He spent 5 years in a Vietnamese jail, but has gone back to Vietnam on peaceful missions, and supported opening economic and diplomatic relations with them. Imagine an Alqaeda prisoner in Guantanamo becoming a leader of a foreign muslim country and then fighting for normal relations with the USA.

KGC
United States
20/09/2008
Obama and Bush
In Obama's defense, Iran kills women for having sex. That is wrong and we (all decent people) should be upset and want that to stop. I am therefore willing to give Obama a pass as long as he is not talking about invasion. However, let us not forget that Iran had a modern democracy that respected women's rights until it messed with OUR OIL. And what about Israel? What about democracy and freedom for Palestine and Israel? Obama is as ignorant on this as Bush, sad but true. McKinney 4 Prez.

Lighteagle
United States
21/09/2008
Obama like Bush?
Well Obama is only going to be like Dubya Bush on one agenda-which is completion of Nafta and perhaps a North American Union. Obama is more like Bill Clinton who had rather try to cut a deal with other countries rather than like Bush who would rather not cut a deal and just send in the military to (take) what he wants. McCain has brought back the old Iran contragate crooks pardoned by Bush Senior like Bill Mcfarlane and others, while Obama has Robert Rubin and others from Zionist wagons. Repeat!

Vinnie
New Zealand (Aotearoa)
22/09/2008
American hypocrisy
Here's a hypothetical situation. America supported Ukraine and Georgia to break with Russia. If Alaska decided to break with America (Palin has suggested secession), and wanted to become their own country, like Canada, I don't in my wildest dreams believe that America would stand by idly and let that happen. Paticularly if Russia supported Alaska. One day Alaska and the US will part though, it's inevitable, but they may have to go to war with the US first — it's the American way..

justin
Afghanistan
22/09/2008
sneeky game cont.
well, it goes both ways. during the cold war, an military era that dealt with a very unconventional war of intelligence, counterintelligence, and the threat of a global annihilation, one had to be "suggestive" in ones tactics to pursue victory. in the "war on terror", it is the same: wire taps, profiling, war in disguise of promoting democracy, etc. vs. an enemy that blends into and targets the innocent to engage fear. it is all the same and will never change. in the end, perhaps god will.

Joanne Hanrahan
United States
18/09/2008
article: Obama shares Bushs goals
We SHOULD be pushing democracy, especially in the Middle East. The problem is that majority-Muslim democracies will benefit the world in the long-term but hurt their people and the US in the short-term. American politicians only think in the short-term that's why we look the other way while dictators like Musharraf and Mubarrak oppress their people, who clearly WANT democracy. The trouble for us is that they want conservative Islamic democracies.

Jibril
United States
18/09/2008
Obama = Bush? Never!
Bush has given America a bad name in the eyes of the rest of the world. As if many countries already didn't like America for various reasons, but I feel to compare Obama to him is simply ridiculous in this manner. The headline should read John McCain, who Obama is running against, shares Bush's goals. Obama is more likely to keep peace around the world and put an end to unnecessary U.S. invasions. Ultimately, he will also restore the U.S. economy which will have a positive effect on the world.

John Paul Jones
United States
18/09/2008
Obama shares Bush's Goals Many good points here. Discussion/talking is a start rather than the bullets and bombs of Muslims killing Muslims today in Yemen. Why don't we all wake up and smell the coffee? There is plenty of blame to go around! The US, the Middle East, Israel, Europe.....and yes...even Canada! LOL THE WORLD NEEDS TO STOP POiNTiNG FiNGERS and EVERY COUNTRY LOOK INWARD ON HOW TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES. The blame game will eventually just kill us all.

Björn
Sweden
18/09/2008
Obvoiusly any given state will have on its agenda to influence other countries' politics, so that it suit your own interests. If that is accomplished by means of civic society building, instead of warfare, fine by me. On the other hand you have to be careful, the aspiring democracy of Palestine was crushed when the "wrong" government was elected. Western support is not always reliable.

William L. Hall
United States
18/09/2008
Bushs goals
I say just be lucky I am not the next President, I would turn my back on all and let every country fend for it self. No more hand outs no more bail out no more foreign oil. I would close the boarders and just take care of our country. You think it is easy to work all your life to give to your government to see it all go to other countries. That is my thinking that is my beliefs, what has any other country ever done for the USA. None of you but we keep giving and giving. This and pray for.

VSD
France, Metropolitan
18/09/2008
Not just the US
I don't think Europe is any different from the US. We believe that "our way of life" has to be everybody else's. The issue isn't the way to achieve it (war or intelligence) but the goal itself. Nobody's asked us to convert the whole universe. Democraty isn't perfect in Europe far from it and we'd better focus on improving our own society than trying to help people who don't ask for help. it's way more difficult too.

The Peasant
Singapore
19/09/2008
The Democrats are and will always be warmongerers
One should not be surprised that Obama would continue present US wars and policies. The Democrats have a long history of foreign military intervention: Woodrow Wilson i WWI, Roosevelt in WWII, JFK in Vietnam, Clinton in the Balkans, to name a few. A progressive "democratic" theory is much more prone to foreign (and domestic) violence than is a true isolationistic conservative ideology (true as opposed to social(ist) "conservatism" in the form of for example neo-conservatism).

wolf
United States
20/09/2008
hamza muhumed
true, hamza, it is sad that the us sent food to keep all y'all in poverty. would it have been better to let you starve? thankfully, you survived, and now are able to kill and rape one another to abandon. keep up the good work

Amvet
United States
20/09/2008
Shared beliefs
The shared beliefs of Americans are, in truth, "we rule, you obey". In the last 500 years there were two great holocasts in our world, (1) the robbery, enslavement, and murder of native Americans and (2) the robbery, enslavement, and murder of black Africans. The "Liberty and Justice for all" crowd was active in both of the great crimes. The moralizing is window dressing, nothing more.

Fat white man
United States
21/09/2008
Rome was not built in one day
Give the guy a chance. Nobody really knows what Obama will exactly do once in power. Also, *real* change can only come in small steps. At this point, any respite from this neo-con corporatocracy would be welcome. Immigration will do the rest to keep the inbred fat white men at bay. As for all of you US-haters, you are just pathetic souls full of envy. I dare you even find a valid definition of American. There is no such thing!

MW
United Kingdom
21/09/2008
US policy
Would you rather have McCain? McPalin? Whose side are you on? No politician's up to the job, but some might learn on the job?

Brian Frank
Germany
21/09/2008
Iran USA
Why is it that journalists start looking for "groups behind policies" instead of looking at structures, context and history. E.g., "In the past few years, Ukraine and Georgia's 'Orange and Rose revolutions' have effectively transformed the two countries into the most faithful American allies in Russia's backyard." That's sloppy religious-type thinking. "Trans-formed"? Like a miracle? Ukraine, Georgia: "We loved Russia until the Americans transformed us."

Brian Frank
Germany
21/09/2008
The Supreme Leader
The really ironic thing about this article is that it's more of a statement about the intransigence of the Iranian government. Notice the picture: The Supreme Leader is the up and in the center, the president below and to the side. That's an excellent visual illustration of the Iranian governmental power structure, and (unlike what is possible with Obama) the Iranian power structure will NOT change. But the religious leaders still fear it.

Paul
United States
21/09/2008
USA
I suspect that Obama knows what is really going on. I remember his stance on Palestine and Iran when he started his presidential run. He said that he was in favour of talking to Iran without preconditions and expressed sympathy for the Palestinians. Then as the campaign progressed (or regressed) he started to change these views to match that of what the bush regime and the AIPAC freaks want. It remains to be seen what Obama does once elected, if he is elected.

justin
Afghanistan
22/09/2008
sneeky game
there is ignorance on both sides of the line. the funny thing is everybody thinks they are right, and whoever does not share their view is wrong. this is true with western states (one polar extreme) and militants ( for lack of a better term). it is so sad that, being as "advanced as our human civilization is, we cannot figure out how to coexist. this article seems to, correct me if i am wrong, suggest that the US employs sneeky tactics to promote its ideals.

justin
Afghanistan
22/09/2008
sneeky game cont. p3
in the end, perhaps god will forsake us all for our failure to truly understand what he has given us, and for twisting what he has given us through his teachings (be it from whatever source you like) to fit our own personal agenda, be it on a world wide political scale or on a personal level. btw in regards to hamzas comment, i truly hope the situation (whatever it is, i have not been there) improves and i pray that your nation may one day be peaceful and prosperous. as do others from the USA.

Scott
Canada
23/09/2008
Democracy is better than a dictatorship.
The US policy is traditional imperialism masked under the cloak of righteous moralism. quote from Noam Chomsky. But who's to say that its always negative. Why shouldn't democracy be promoted. The Taliban, the theocracy in Iran, monarchy in saudi arabia, dictatorship in syria and the list goes on. All countries where the ruling elite control every aspect of society and you don't have a choice or a voice. I'd rather have the freedom to express my ideals and elect my leaders. con't

joe
United States
23/09/2008
thanks
as a young citizen of america its a relief to see that what some of us are screamin in this country is observed by the rest of the world. i see obama as a tool of the council on foreign relations (who joe bieden is a part of) and from there you know his stances, which are pro-war global economy. the american people have been douped already...there is no differance in goals of these cantidates, only means. just know the real issues concerning america r education, imminent domain and amero dollar

Jeff Kolakowski
United States
23/09/2008
For Two Sentz
I just wanted to point out the Congress did approve of the invasion of Iraq. Does that make it any better that the U.S. invaded a country that posed no threat? If the UN had approved, would it have been more just, less brutal? Would less people have been killed, maimed or displaced? Approval by congress or the UN only gives murder a different name. But its murder just the same.

Apu
Andorra
23/09/2008
Amazing deduction, who would have thought that an American presidential candidate would have a pro-American agenda! What comes next? Sarcozy promote a pro-France Agenda? Or maybe Putin will promote a pro-Russia agenda? Of course Obama will have the same agenda as Bush, only he'll achieve that goal by acting like a normal human being instead of randomly invading places.

LaLa
Afghanistan
03/11/2008
Election Obama
It's funny how a country who's TV producers make millions airing reality shows where Americans Back-stab each other and humiliate themselves for the grand prize of money,-Yet having no funds to cover children's healthcare, or no funds to for educational needs. Where children are obese while watching the hand fed illusions coming through thier television sets, while their parents work all-day trying to pay off a mortage on a home that they may eventually lose.

W Lighteagle
United States
01/11/2008
Obama like Bush?
The big difference between Obama and Bush is a simple one- Intelligence ! Bush is a brain cell half dead idiot who admits he was on a Jim Beam drunken binge for about 20 years of his younger life. He has the IQ of about a 10th grader. Both Bush and McCain and Cheny want the wars to go on as long as possible cause it means big kickbacks from companies like Haliburton. Obama will concentrate on America economic woes. He will use diplomacy with the Muslims, but bomb is doublecrossed by them!

 
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