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MB
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15/10/2008 |
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Harper Steals Elections |
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Harper did not win these elections. He stole them. He implemented policies throughout his previous term making it nearly impossible to vote if you don't have photo ID. They also make it impossible for Muslim women to vote unless they unveil themselves at the voting station, and make it difficult for rural people to vote. Over 1 million Canadians COULD NOT VOTE because of the new 'security' regulations - and then the Conservative führers have the nerve to claim that there was a 'low turnout'. |
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Shatha
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Reply to "MB" |
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Oh you have got to be kidding me MB. I detest Stephen Harper and the Conservative Party, but to say he "stole" the election is probably the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Voter turn out at the last election was 64%, the Liberals were in power then. Voter turn out was less than 60% this time. What legitimate election doesn't need photo ID anyway?? Trust me, Conservatives won because Canadian are treading upon the most dangerous of all tools: apathy. |
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Jake
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Although I'm not a Conservative, we must call a spade a spade. The Conservatives won enough seats FAIRLY to lead a minority government. The security rules surrounding voting were NOT abusive and veiled women were NOT required to remove their veils - unlike in many Moslem countries. |
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fatima
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Canadian elections |
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I wear a veil and I did NOT have to take my covering off in front of a strange man. A woman checked that I was who I said a was in a private place away from strangers' eyes. This is good. It prevents election fraud.
Harper has given definite dates for Canadian troop withdrawals from Afghanistan - they will be out in 20011. He wants to hand Afghanistan back to the Afghani people. More Western leaders should have this attitude. |
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George Washington
Afghanistan |
15/10/2008 |
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"free and fair elections" |
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Oh cmon guys, is it such a suprise that the incumbent won in this day and age? When he agrees with the vast majority of American policy? Incumbents are "winning" pretty much every election the US supports them in. We have no choice these days but to tune in and hope CNN doesnt lie through their teeth about who won. |
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Chris
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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RE:Harper Steals Elections |
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Calling this a stolen vote because of the new voter identification is insane. First of all, the rules are implemented by Elections Canada, and independant organization. Second, Muslim women do not have to reveal their faces, and you don't need a photo ID, there are other ways of acceptable identification, anyone with enough responsibility ahead of time who is eligible would have been able to make sure they could have voted on election day. Its not like election day came as a surprise. |
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Rick
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Ohh PLEASE! Give me a break... he won fair ans square, He was practically running unopposed |
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Larry
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Canadian PM wins election |
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The comments by MB from "Canada" are just not true, a complete lie. Rural citizens have been voting for over 140 years they had no trouble voting if they choose to. Muslim women could vote with their veils on. Photo ID made it faster for everyone, one only had to show two pieces of information, gas bill, tax bill etc with their names on them to vote. I have no idea why MB would make these claims. I would love to debate him/her on the subject. |
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canadian
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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so-called "victory" |
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Harper only got 37% of the votes. With a turnout figure of 59.1 per cent, it is outrageous that he claims "victory". Liberals 26% were punished by the working poor, the middle-class for following the same policies (neoliberal economy for the very rich, war of occupation, environnemental disaster with the tar sands, social cuts in public services, no social housing...)
The Neo-Democrats, NDP, 18% did a good job, focusing on economy, social, environnement and war. But MSM did help them. |
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JAH_SJ
Afghanistan |
15/10/2008 |
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"Stole" the election, yes, but through vote splitting |
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Yes, there were impediments to voting, but fully 62% of those who did vote, did not vote for the Conservatives. The Conservatives picked up many seats because the vote was split between the more "progressive" parties. Nor can low turnout cannot be attributed to the impediments: rather it is an expression of disenfranchisement from all political parties and their unimaginative, mostly neoliberal policies. |
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dvan
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Nobody won |
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Canadians spent 3 million dollars on this failed election to end up with more of the same - another minority government. New "security" regulations at the polls did make it difficult to vote without identification and a fixed address, but one could still vote wearing a veil (by mail in advanced polls, or in person by swearing an oath). The low voter turnout had more to do with how lame and ineffectual Canadians feel their choices to be in a system without proportional representation. |
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AE
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Canada PM wins elections |
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That is exactly it, a large section of non-conservative voters found it extremely difficult to be able to vote, and thus chose not to in order to keep some sort of dignity.
It is truly ridiculous how they 'accomodate' the population during these election days. |
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Dany
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Canada PM wins elections |
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I dont know what you're talking about, I live in a rural area and had no problems voting and so do all the person around me. And for the muslim women, if a western women go in the middle east she will probably have to hide her face so when it's time to vote why wouldnt we ask them to prove their identity? It is really important to prove identity so the frustrated hippies like you cannot vote twice or more. |
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JoelFrench
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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The Canadian people need to wake up. We elected the only leader who wanted to invade Iraq in 2003 and the only party with an "environmental plan" that allows greenhouse gases to keep rising. |
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Nick
Canada |
15/10/2008 |
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Poor Electoral Process |
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No kidding, I agree with the other feedback. I had my passport with me at the voting station and it was rejected as a form of identification. Imagine - my official CANADIAN PASSPORT was rejected as a form of identification.
Another major issue was the lack of proportional representation. I voted for the Green Party this year who captured 6.8% of the popular vote. That should have counted for 20 of 308 seats but instead they received no seats. |
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lumberjack
Canada |
16/10/2008 |
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Canadian elections |
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I would encourage my fellow Canadians to look closely at our electoral system and decide if it is providing the kind of leadership Canadians are asking for. It seems we want coalition governments... perhaps it is time we addressed the lack of proportional representation in our system. Both the province of Ontario and of British Columbia have spend offered alternative in provincial election policy. I think it is time to consider national electoral reform. |
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Mex
Canada |
16/10/2008 |
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Reply To MB |
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Get real. I did not vote for the Conservatives but alleging they stole the election is ridiculous, Canada isn't the USA. Its electoral process is transparent and honest. As for the women and veil rhetoric....find something better to complain about! |
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Shatha
Canada |
16/10/2008 |
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Fact of the matter is, the plurality voting system is what failed us. Conservatives and Liberals didn't have a huge gap between votes, it was the mere fact that one MP got more votes in his constituency than any other. I'm not always crazy about the Liberal Party, but we really should have all rallied behind them to defeat the Conservatives. |
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Mean Green
Canada |
18/10/2008 |
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Re:shatha |
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Are you for real? Backing a party that hasent been able to help Canadians for over twenty years? Yes the people of Canada should have rallied behind a party, but not the Liberals. They change leadership like the common cold. We need change in this country. we need a goverment that looks at us The Greens.NDP. Yes support them. Show the other partys that they need to get off there butts and display more then just name calling and petty argumets in the house. Sit and watch Cpac and see what imean. |
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Oliver
Canada |
21/10/2008 |
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Yes, we're back to square one (with the exception of the conservatives gaining a several more seats and the liberals losing some).
Secondly, voter turnout was something like 58%. That's quite low but it's no wonder. Harper broke his own law on fixed-date elections and people were not interested in this one. Hopefully the liberals will gain more votes next time. |
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