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Dozens killed in Afghan bus ambush

The UN says Taliban attacks have increased this year [File: AFP]

About 30 Afghans have been killed by the Taliban after it stopped a bus travelling from Kandahar to Helmand province, according to officials and the Taliban.

General Mohammad Zahir Azimi, the defence minsitry spokesman, said on Sunday that 31 civilians were killed in the attack in the Maiwand district, a Taliban-controlled area just west of Kandahar city.

But a Taliban spokesman said that 27 Afghan army personnel had been killed.

Qari Yusuf Ahmadi said that Taliban fighters had checked the documents of the passengers and released all the civilians before killing the soldiers.

Azimi denied the Taliban claims saying: "Our soldiers travel by military convoy, not in civilian buses. And we have military air transportation."

Taliban ambush

Al Jazeera's Dan Nolan, reporting from Kabul, the capital, said that there were several different versions of events and it was difficult to verify the truth as journalists are unable to travel to the area because of poor security.

"The police chief in Kandahar says that two buses were attacked on the way from Kandahar to Helmand a few days ago," Nolan reported.

"He says it was a Taliban ambush, that the first bus was able to escape with minor casualties, but the second bus was not. It was hijacked by the Taliban and 50 passengers were taken hostage.

"Now they have reports of 24 dead bodies, that another 18 are still missing. They believe that there are another 18 bodies still to be found," Nolan said.

"A Taliban spokesperson gives a very different version of events ... he told Al Jazeera that they did hijack a bus  but they took 27 hostages and they were all Afghan national army soldiers.

"The spokesman for the Taliban said that they were travelling on a civilian bus because they were too scared to travel through this area in an army convoy."

'Operating without fear'

Dawood Sultanzoy, an Afghan MP, told Al Jazeera that he had spoken to a source in Helmand, where one of the men wounded in the attack was being treated in hospital.

"I was told they were all civilians and they were on their way to Iran for work. They were stopped and they were told they were the militias for the governor of Helmand, therefore they would be killed," he said.

"This shows that the Taliban are always a few steps ahead in how brutal they can become and are operating without any fear."

On Wednesday, Taliban spokesman Ahmadi told Al Jazeera that the group had captured "at least 180 Afghan soldiers".
 
He said the the soldiers were seized while travelling in three buses on their way to Lashkar Gah, the capital of Helmand province.
 
Ahmadi said that the soldiers were dressed in civilian clothes and were on a mission to reinforce government troops in the area, "to prevent the fall of Lashkar Gah into the hands of the Taliban".

Violence in Afghanistan this year has killed more than 5,100 people, mostly suspected Taliban fighters, according to an Associated Press news agency count of figures from Afghan and Western officials.

 Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
 
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saud
United Arab Emirates
19/10/2008
the problem
the problem is that the west believes whenever their allies say something that may or may not be the truth. and the muslims and american haters believe when taliban say something that may or may not be the truth. at the end it all depends on who believes. because the west has more influence especially with their media, the west is biased against anyone against the us or supporting the resistance (yes, they are not terrorists, they are the resistance to illegal occupiers)

Jæran Skog
Denmark
19/10/2008
Why ?
JOE I tell u why cuz there is no evidence that those was civilians. Myabe maybe not. Why did u belive in the "goverment" immidietly ?

Azad Khan Ahmad Zai
Afghanistan
19/10/2008
Pashtoons have to think
Pashtoons have to use their mentality. If Pashtoon kill Pashtoons their power will get weaker and weaker and their future generation will be slave for Punjabi and Irani. They have to ask themselves if Pakistan and other Arabs support them against Western Forces in Afghanistan what is Arabs and Pakistani ISI deal with Western countries. It is inconvenience that instate of foreign forces, Afghans to be kill it would be better to put their weapon and support their own country to be built up.

seph
Philippines
19/10/2008
To otis and Joe
Why would we denounce these attacks! The reason why these attacks are all happening here in Afghan is because the oppressors like you Americans, Nato and Isaf came to their lands. You have broke the balance of their and made it complicated. You were the root of all of these attacks. Was the Taliban this violent before the foreign army came to Afghan? They weren't. You can't blame the Arab world sympathizing for them because the western keeps on intervening and disturbing their social process.

kabrana
Israel
19/10/2008
stop fighting and killing each other
ok, you have finished most of your populatioon and please stop killing each other, and use the money to feed you folks.

T.Foster
Great Britain (UK)
19/10/2008
Deaths in Afghanistan
Otis,whilst your regret and disgust may be authentic I suggest you ask yourself the question,what are US troops doing in a foreign country.This is the root cause of all the mayhem. Revenge for 11/9?Please,tell me another!.It appears that the US and their alleis have really let the genie out of the bottle and return him or find the stopper.This is called "Real Politik" or was once. If Afghans wish to kill Afghans then it is no business of the US to stop them.America must leave.

Victor
United States
20/10/2008
They were civilians.
To those who haven't been in Afhanistan, when off duty Afghan military personnel travel by convoys and are excorted to protect them from these ambushes. The Taliban are telling the world that they are Afghan soldiers but they use the results of ambushes to threaten the nearby villages like the IslamoNazis who only believe in killing their own people as justified killing.

Abdul Hakeem
Brazil
20/10/2008
war in Afghanistan
The origin of all this mess is invasion. Invasion of US troops into Afghanistan and Iraq. They tried to justify their invasion through the supposed WMD. Where are they? I think it´s time for American troops to leave Afghanistan as soon as possible and let Afghan people to take control of their own destiny. But it´s not all. USA must pay reparations for all the damages caused to both peoples and countries.

Sameem
Australia
20/10/2008
US the guiding light, I dont think so.
Any person or persons, groups or armies killing innocent civilians are at odds with the values which they preach. What disgust me is when they try to speak in a self righteous manner professing to bringing peace to the world. But yet all they do is bring distruction through greed. If the US has the solutions please let us know what they are. Is their financial system the model for the world to follow? Are their Foreign Policies any better? I don’t think so, but they do, and that’s what counts.

Idris
United States
20/10/2008
the blame game...
war begets violence, corruption & murder No party is exempt West nor Muslim We must live up to the banner of Islam. and must remember it was John F. Kennedy who said "If you make peaceful change impossible..you make violent revolution inevitable"

Otis
United States
19/10/2008
Bus Ambush
I am disgusted by the Arab World and others who look the other way or even endorse the actions of groups like the Taliban and Al Qaida who purposely attack civilians. While the USA and its allies have sadly killed civilians while fighting cowards who hide behind them, at least those casualties were not being deliberately assaulted.

JOE
United States
19/10/2008
WHERES THE OUT CRY?
Why are there not people leaving feedback on this? When NATO/ISAF(Which typically are led by Afghans) forces harm civilians there are tons of people denouncing the international AID offered to Afghanistan however when the Taliban kill a bus load of nocombatants no one says anything. The priorities are all wrong here. Nobody is perfect and not all the mistakes are made by ISAF. Afghans need to step up and help themselves. Afghans are proud people. Unite and start acting like it.

randy james
United States
19/10/2008
America Versus Islam
I come to Al Jazeera to let Muslims know that Americans are not your enemies. We struggle to live up to the great principles of our founders which apply to all mankind, and while some of our leaders are corrupt, the majority of our soldiers come here to help give you, our fellow human beings, the opportunity for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We try hard to admit our mistakes. It seems that many of you are unwilling to do so. If that is so, how can we ever hope to find common ground

Aman
Svalbard and Jan
19/10/2008
Why Bother.
Why bother replying when we can let you loud mouth American's have your rant. Now that you have blamed everyone else for the situation in the Muslim lands besides your own greedy self righteous American politicians do you feel better? Firstly at the last count the American's have killed over a few hundred thousand civilians in both wars: Iraq and Afghanistan, or are we supposed to forget the atrocities that you and your kind commit? Funny how the American people of your kind FORGET.

Reasonable
Canada
19/10/2008
They are called (by the west) terrorists for a reason, and this seems like a good example.

Arianfar
Afghanistan
19/10/2008
Islam
it is so sad tat all this come as a result of us being muslim. I am really hating myself for being muslim. Taliban are just islamic extremist who knows islam but nothing else in this word

Penrose
United States
20/10/2008
Taliban bus killings
Though not reported in your article I understand that the victims were killed by beheading.

Laurie
Australia
20/10/2008
Terrible Taliban
Just to refresh everyone's memory because it seems a few have forgotten what torture the Taliban inflicted on the poor Afghans. They used to stone women to death for being "inappropriately dressed" before soccer matches. Witnesses cannot describe the brutality of this and other crimes against humanity of the Taliban. Remember this before calling for the reinstatement of the Taliban as part of some sort of anti-Western international plan! Be anti-western if you wish, but not pro-Taliban!

JOE
United States
20/10/2008
PROVE YOUR POINT
My friends. I didnt say these weren't soldiers. I'm not siding with either source. They WERE non-combatants. IF they were indeed ANP or ANA then they would have been out of uniform and unarmed(NONCOMBATANT) while traveling. SEPH. You can not win the entire country. YOU need to travel there and see the look of THANKS in they eyes of a child that can go to school and the smile from a mother who knows her kids can play outside. TEAMWORK and PEACE put that school. ATTACKs threaten that.

 
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