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Karzai urges withdrawal 'timeline'
Nearly 70,000 mainly Western troops  have been sent to Afghanistan since 2001 [AFP]

Hamid Karzai, Afghanistan's president, has demanded foreign powers set a "timeline" for the withdrawal of their forces from his country.

He told a delegation from the UN Security Council that without the timeline he would have to seek a political solution to the Taliban-led insurgency, his office said on Tuesday.

"The international community should give us a timeline of how long or how far the 'war on terrorism' will go," Homayun Hamidzada, Karzai's chief spokesman, cited the president as telling the delegation.

"If we don't have a clear idea of how long it will be, the Afghan government has no choice but to seek political solutions," he said.

He said that a political solution included "starting to talk to Taliban and those opposing the government".

But the president's critics have questioned the timing of his most recent demand, pointing out that Karzai is due to stand for re-election next year.

"This statement sounds so hollow so close to the election," Daoud Sultanzoy, an indpendent member of parliament in Afghanistan, told Al Jazeera.

"Everybody in this country knows that Mr Karzai has in the past few days and weeks been releasing all kinds of statments - and that seems like suspect timing so close to the election."

Foreign troops

A US-led invasion ousted the Taliban from power in Afghanistan in 2001 and nearly 70,000 mainly Western troops, most of them under a UN Security Council mandate, have since been sent to Afghanistan.

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Barack Obama, the US president-elect, has said that Afghanistan and his country's so-called "war on terror" would be a priority for his government and campaigned on a pledge to shift US forces from Iraq to Afghanistan.

Karzai has been pushing for talks with insurgents who renounce links with al-Qaeda and accept the post-Taliban constitution.

A statement released after the meeting said he had told the 15 UN ambassadors and representatives that Afghans were "not hopeful for the future" because of the poor security situation.

"The president emphasised that Afghanistan is committed to the war against al-Qaeda and those Taliban who take orders from outside," it said, referring to extremist bases across the border in Pakistan.

"But we will talk with those Taliban who for various reasons have joined the opposition and are not against the Afghan constitution," the statement said.

Afghan demands

Karzai also said it was unacceptable that the Taliban controlled a number of districts in Afghanistan, including some in provinces with large numbers of foreign soldiers.

"We need to ensure the Afghan government is in control of its entire territory," Hamidzada said. "Having pockets of territory mainly in southern Afghanistan and Helmand under Taliban control is unacceptable."

Karzai also repeated his demands that the international forces stop causing civilian casualties in their operations against fighters and focus their efforts on al-Qaeda and Taliban bases in Pakistan, his spokesman said.

The delegation, which included Zalmay Khalilzad, the US ambassador to the UN, are on a fact-finding mission to Afghanistan.

The US military also said on Tuesday it had killed six fighters and detained 12 people in operations a day earlier.

 Source: Al Jazeera and agencies
 
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Steve W Gilman
United Kingdom
26/11/2008
Afghan president urges foreign powers set a "timeline" for withdrawal
Terrific analysis Jonathan. It is indeed really thought provoking. Well I agree with your point though. Think it’s time we look at things in a different point of view. At least, far far away from those typically commercial and political perspectives.

Ahmad from Kandahr
Afghanistan
26/11/2008
What karzai said is unrealistc and negitive approch which is an irrosponsible statement because the people of Afghansitan extremely need the presece of Foreing forces in Afghanisan ohterwise Taliban and ISI will take over the country. Pakistan and its ISI is a historical enemy of Afghansitan and they are trying to encuroge United States to leave Afghanistan which is a historical mistake.

Lana
Tajikistan
26/11/2008
have any of you been to Afgha?
hey hey hey! how much do you know about the country apart from being braiwashed by your media? have you once been down there? hold back your comments then! at least jonathan has the point despite of the harsh comment he did. No one has the right to decide for another country and its people how to live! No one has any justifucation on civilian deaths, no matter how "noble" the mission is!

Jonathan
Canada
26/11/2008
If you pay taxes, you are the cause
Imagine if Afghanis had a lot of military might. imagine if they thought Canada's Harper or the USA's Obama were very, very bad people. Imagine if they came to North America which was weaker than they were and simply set up camp and began killing all the people in whatever regime they didn't like. Say they killed your sister and your friend along the way by accident. That is a mirror I'm holding for you. I won't work again until Harper withdraws, because I won't pay taxes for bullets.

Scott G
United States
26/11/2008
Jonathan of Canada
Imagine your country's govt was sheltering some radical persons who decided to go down to Mexico and kill 3,000 civilians because they felt Mexico had an undue influence in another country because of their control of oil. Suppose your gov't also advocated the killing of women not covered head to toe? Mexico in turn demands these culprits be turned over for trial. Look in the mirror little boy. When Mexico invades to capture these perpetrators, are you going to side with the criminals and gov't?

Abukhari
Afghanistan
26/11/2008
Scott G of US
Imagine the KGB is killing all the good leaders of the U.S, and just keeping the once that they like. Just imagine the KGB is running the U.S gov't by buying all the leaders, and than imagine when a person like you tries to control that situstion by talking out loud about the corrupte leaders and in result he is asked to leave his own country. Just imagine little boy what would you do??

Jasmine Husain
Afghanistan
26/11/2008
Karzai is acting
Karzai is not sincere to Afghanistan, he's an american agent used by them to legitimize the illegitimate invasion of Afghanistan by Euro-Americans. Karzai's recent outcry is part of the election campaign, he's aware that the Americans are going to replace him with Zalmay Khalilzad or some other 'agent'. But I agree with him on that the 'terrorist troops' have been killing innocent Afghan women and children in the name of 'war on terror'.

kieruu
Ireland
27/11/2008
everyone in this debate is partially right
the 2 sides here are both right in ways. those saying that it was horrendous for the US/UN to invade and impose a way of life are right, yet so are those who point out that the taliban were some of the nastiest, cruelest people alive everyone is forgetting the russians, who invaded before the taliban took over,and that before this, afghanistan was actually doing pretty well. i feel deep sympathy for the normal afghan citizen who has watched all these take place while trying to get on with life

Nooriya from Kandahar Province
Afghanistan
27/11/2008
I have to ask all the anti - American presence in Afghansitan : where were you when Pakistan occupied our country by the name of Taliban ? what is your option after American left Afghansitan ? do you want once again Taliban to control our county ? Please understan that Taliban is not an Islamic or resistance movement, they are killers and burners of school and they are plying in the hand of Pakistan ISI

Abukhari
Afghanistan
27/11/2008
Nooriya & Ayub
I 30% agree with you & first you need to understand this, that the ISI gave birth to Taliban. They are no one but Paki & Afghani Pushtans, they kill & burn schools, Why ? because they can't help to control their hate towards the ( nonbelievers) west. But that's not the justification of their wrong doing. It will take time for us to make it all right but not with the west presence/ infoluence. Ayub 50% agree with you but don't forget that the U.S is not in possition of any new war, especially Ira

Bus
Afghanistan
29/11/2008
Karzai urges withdrawal timeline
Hamid Karzai is nothing more than a hypocrite for many reasons, and the most ovious one that everyone should be aware of is that his is in power of because of the same foreign troops that he wants them to leave. it he out of his mind? don't he know even the foreign troop he the mayor of Kabul and once the forneign troops leave Afghanistan his hand made un democatic government will collapse.

michael
United States
29/11/2008
Karzai
Brilliant move on Karzai's part. He wants to get reelected by appealing to the people of Afghanistan as having Afghan interests before his personal. It might work in his favor. Seems like a deja-vu to me, repeating the strategy of Iraqi al-Maliki by Karzai. But, I think a comprehensive political solution is needed for the sake of security of the general population, even with the presence of coalition foreign forces in Afghanistan.

nawawimohamad
Afghanistan
30/11/2008
Hamid Karzai is just a puppet and his voice is that of the ventriloquist Bush. Bush is trying to make life of the president-elect difficult. How can Karzai who is only safe living within the presidential compound in Kabul voice out such nonsense. The US after all these years has only barely managed to control Kabul while the rest of Afghanistan is still under the insurgents!

rart
Canada
30/11/2008
Karzai urges withdrawal timeline
Jonathan, your analysis is dishonest. Western nations do have to stop with their ofttimes imperialistic tendencies, but Afghanistan is another matter. The real crime is that it took 9/11 for us to assist the Afghan people in ousting the Taliban.

Nick
United States
01/12/2008
Out of Afghanistan?
The "War on Terror" is a misnomer, the U.S. is securing a pipeline while putting the squeeze on Iran and Russia, if the U.S. wanted to bring Osama Bin Laden to justice it had other more viable options than invading and occupying Asia's greatest military graveyard.

Jasmin Husain
Afghanistan
26/11/2008
Karzai is not sincere to Afghanistan, he's an american agent used by them to legitimize the illegitimate invasion of Afghanistan by Euro-Americans. Karzai's recent outcry is part of the election campaign, he's aware that the Americans are going to replace him with Zalmay Khalilzad or some other 'agent'. But I agree with him on that the 'terrorist troops' have been killing innocent Afghan women and children in the name of 'war on terror'. Americans are punishing us because we want them to leave.

Ayub
Afghanistan
27/11/2008
Bunch of bullshit:
Karzai and Khalilzad are nothing but a couple of fruitcakes.They get paid by the US govt and sugarcoat their speeches whether it be for reelection or otherwise.As for Barack and Shifting trops from Iraq to Afghaistan is fishy.I think there is something bigger brewing in this Obama administration,once he's inaugurated he probably bomb Iran with the help of Israel.This is why the troop shifting is needed from Iraq.Timeline for US and NATO it is not going to happen,keep dreaming puppet Karzai......

Disgusted American
Afghanistan
30/11/2008
Karzai urges withdrawal timeline
Finaly the government has taken a stance towards forgien murders to leave their country. Their should NEVER be a forgien occupier in any counrties cival wars even if they last for thousands of years such as is the case in the mideastern/arab countries. The USA - RUSSIA has no motive other than selfish greedy reasons to be in Their countries. There has been rumors that the Bush family through the US govrernment had intentions of taking control of the oil fields and governments .

Nathan Hale
United States
03/12/2008
Falacy...
I think johnathan may be forgetting recent history. What were the attacks of 9/11 if not the state sponsored murder of civillians. We did not start the war in afganistan, they did. Iraq may have been unjustified, but taking out the taliban was a perfectly just act. I pay my taxes and I am at peace with that money being used to kill takfiri.

Jam
Afghanistan
07/12/2008
Karazi Statement
I believe that if the foreign troops leave Afghanistan,then again the streets of afghanistan will become a river of blood like it was during the Mujahadin and Taliban Regime.

ahmad
Australia
07/12/2008
i think president karazai is frustrated with the lack of progress and also with all the corruption from the lowest to the highest levels and uses now statements to push or put some pressure on the international community to speed things up. If one thinks thoroughly so there has been no substantial progress in any front as there should have been taking the time laps and the amount of money and resources used.

 
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