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Elliott Bignell
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10/09/2008 |
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I see the following account of the greatest scientific endeavour of the new century: "Critics fear the experiment could go wrong and destroy the Earth." Critics fear that the experiment might not find the predicted particles and that the Standard Model will fail. Critics think the money could have been better spent. Nutcases fear the experiment could go wrong and destroy the Earth. Please do not accord them so much merit as to imply that their concerns are an important part of this news. |
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Mahomed Hameed
South Africa |
10/09/2008 |
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Big "Bung" machine |
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These men are trying to prove the non- existance of God.Their big bang theory is 'bung'. The question is: How does the sun rise at exactly the same spot every morning? How are the seas contained on earth without spilling into space for millions of years. Obviously, the scientists have theories on that, but the reality is that they could not live a second if God merely changes the mixture in the air we breathe. Don't try to disprove GOD, and advocate a Godless society please! |
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Scharad
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10/09/2008 |
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Godless Scientists. |
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All you people babbling about God in all this need to get out more. No one cares one whit about disproving God and the LHC won't change that. Science progresses regardless of your beliefs, if science shows something you believe to be false you change it and adapt.
You always have and always will, the beginning of the universe isn't any different than the flat earth, evolution or earth as the center of the universe.
Religion is belief, where belief meets cold hard facts, belief looses. |
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YT
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10/09/2008 |
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Big "Bung" machine? |
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Mahomed Hameed
The Bing Bang is mentioned in the Holy Quran. So how would this experiment discredit the existence of God? |
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Burhan
Ethiopia |
10/09/2008 |
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In one hand it is worthy to help the people starving in many parts of the world like Ethiopia than spend such a big money on this, in the other hand I believe it is the failure of such experiments that shows the existence of GOD, it is best to believe before proofs, but for those who couldn't it is an opportunity to start believing in the existence of GOD. |
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Jogy George
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10/09/2008 |
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End of Universe? |
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In the due course of time, and motivated by the strong desire to acquire more knowledge, the search towards Higg's Boson (God's particle) will be continued and a miniature scale Big-Bang may be inevitable. But, are we trying to eat the "Fruit" of the "Tree of Knowledge" as stated in the Genesis of The Bible?
http://jogygeorge.cat.googlepages.com/myviews |
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Hark Luders
Poland |
10/09/2008 |
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RE: Mahomed Hameed |
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Why do you think the Big Bang theory, if proven true, would prove the non-existence of God???
If God exists, and if, at some point in the distant past, He wanted to make a universe, why shouldn't He have done so using a "Big Bang"?
One way or the other, the Big Bang doesn't explain the beginning of everything. because the question remains, who or what made the Big Bang happen? |
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Richard Faith
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed - part 1 |
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For Mahommed Hameed -
> These men are trying to prove the non-existance of God.
No, they're trying to understand a natural mechanism - what the religious folks make of that is entirely up to them.
While we're on the topic - religious people can't prove the existence of God either - that's why they have "faith" after all. If you knew God existed, you wouldn't need faith.
Science won't prove that one way or another. |
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Richard Faith
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed - part 4 |
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> Don't try to disprove GOD, and advocate a Godless society please!
Lighten up! Its just another experiment. The press have been trying to create a little excitement about it by using the G-word to generate a bit of heat in the general population. Its also scientifically proven that this works. |
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Bagbane
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10/09/2008 |
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This wasnt the first time. |
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You should read the history of the atomic bomb. Some scientists were takeing side bets that the bomb would actually ignite the atmosphere and kill all life when they were testing it in the 1940's. |
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m@
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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So they say they it is next to impossible that something bad will happen? The reality is they have no idea what will happen, otherwise there would be no point in proceeding with this EXPERIMENT!
Haven't blackholes and stranglets already been created by nature? "Nothing's going to happen here that's not already happening in nature," Please take care with the unknown and save us.
Theories are theories. $5,000,000,000 could have fed alot of mouths and maybe cured a couple nasty diseases. |
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Stephen Thoahlane
Lesotho |
10/09/2008 |
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If something could go wrong with this experiment what could happen to those who are alredy disadvantaged by femine, disability and other human tragedies. instead of wasting $5.4bn on experiment that would not yeild any positve results, rather invest such money towards empowerment and upfiltment of the socially maginalised people of the world. This experiment is only intended to misguide the nations of the eath about the beggining of the universe. |
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Simon Patrick
Ireland |
10/09/2008 |
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Disproving GOD? |
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I don't understand why religion and science always have to be on a colision course. Don't all religions believe God is an extremely intelligent and complex being who is capable of creating and understanding everything? So, Isn't it at all possible that God created all these physical laws that we are trying to understand? Maybe, knowing that humans are inferior to God, God just worded the holy scriptures in a simplyfied way on purpose. Maybe God even created Evolution? Don't underestimate God! |
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Anas Hamshari
Kuwait |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang |
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I think this is how God will show his wrath to the nonbelievers, and reverse the technology on them and destroy their entire civilization. |
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Yaotl
Mexico |
10/09/2008 |
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I hope Switzerland will share this knowledgment to the whole world. |
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Elliott Bignell
Switzerland |
10/09/2008 |
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Cost |
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A Nimitz-class aircraft carrier costs about $4.5 billion. If people think money should be better spent they might like to consider cutting spending on military kit first, rather than on the basic science upon which all the benefits of technological society are based. |
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Patrick
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Not that much money... |
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To those saying this money should have been spent elsewhere, $5 billion is not that much money. It hardly even registers on the radar of money spent by national governments. The US has already spent 100 times that destroying the Middle East. Sure, I'd love to see $5 billion go toward helping the poor, but there are much less worthy causes from which we should be diverting money, namely so-called "defense" spending. |
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Kevin
Great Britain (UK) |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed:
I'm with you. But no matter how logical people think they are they still won't be able explain our existence. Even if we accept the 'Big Bang' theory for the sake of argument, there is still no account of how it began.
Science is indeed useful, but only to a point. What will this experiment actually accomplish? Will it do anything to help humanity, to feed the hungry? Put this way, spending $5.4bn seems quite irresponsible. |
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anis
Malta |
10/09/2008 |
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bigbang machie+ god |
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listen it doesn't matter what you belive in this project can do man kind good.it can brong the end,and if it don't it will give us some answers to some questions lke what happen after.what started the big bang is a good question that we may never know,but at lest we'll know what happen after so look at the bright side of it.image the technology we can create with this.the things we'll learn..we're not defing god.no it may be written inteh good book but ,its up to us to find our own answers! |
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asrar
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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Islam is never against science - part 1 |
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The reference to which the Big Bang theory is supported in the Koran is in chapter 21 verse 30:-
"Did the unbelievers not realize that the heavens and the earth were one solid mass, then We tore them apart, and We made every living being out of water?"
*We - does not indicate plurality but rather displays the highest position in languange (Arabic)
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asrar
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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Islam is never against science - part 2 |
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I am a Muslim and i support the advance in science whole-heartedly. This is because believing in science is in tandem to my faith of believing the existence of God. God clearly explains that apart from the revelation of the holy scripture, He wants us look at to the Signs of His creations and its complexity as proofs of His very existence.
See chapter 2 verse 164 below |
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asrar
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10/09/2008 |
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Islam is never against science - part 4 |
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the only remaining question though, will this multi-billion project do any good to serve humanity?
i certainly hope it does. |
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Ricardo
Portugal |
10/09/2008 |
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God(s)? Badly-spend money? |
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As several people already pointed out, these experiments have nothing to do with disproving deities - why disprove what cannot be proven, anyway?
As for those complaining about how the money could have been spent on feeding people or finding cures, remember that those $5.4bn are a drop in the ocean when compared to arms sales all around the world - now that is wasted money!
Investing on knowledge only hurts those who wish us to remain ignorant. |
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sami abdussamad
Qatar |
10/09/2008 |
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what if |
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now i see in the article above ... tht if it is gonna be a failure then.......
u noe they say curiosity kills a cat?????
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Jan Khan
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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The big bang theory continued part 2 |
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the whole universe, in that 'smoke' material. Allah has said in the Qur'an:
(Qur'an, 41:11)
Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ’smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. Allah has said in the Qur’an:
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Steven
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang Machine |
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I find it quite ironic that a so-called scientist would defend this machine by saying that nothing would happen that's not already happening in nature. Is space no longer a part of nature? Black holes exist there as part of the natural world, right? |
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max wunsche
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang Machine |
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The Roman Catholic Church, initially would excommunicate anyone who looked through a telescope. Ain't religion grand! |
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Abdul Raouf
United Arab Emirates |
10/09/2008 |
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Nothing to fear |
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The universe belongs to GOD n nothin can take it away form him. No scientist can prove non existance of GOD. Let them try to prove the Big Bang. GOD mentioned about the big bang in quran 1400 years ago. If the scientists can prove it today, then it would be a greater opportunity for those who dont believe in God to give it another thought. Read what the quran says about Big Bang and u'll b amazed to know the truth.
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temsu
India |
10/09/2008 |
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if this thoery is proven true, then it would have a BIG BANG impact on all the religious aspects of life. |
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Eric
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Hadron Collider |
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Wow, I remember the last time scientist did somthing like this. Now we have the Adom Bomb. Its funny that everybody is talking about God, If you dont BELIEVE in him then why does it bother you so much? Scientist have been trying to figure out God's creations since the beginning of science. And all it does is lead them to more and more science. Is it that hard to BELIEVE? If we Gave God as much thought as we do science, the world would be a better place. |
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Rafael
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Predetermined Excuse |
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Maybe this machine had to be built so that the coming events could be explained more easily to the world when they happen. Im talking about the rapture... When a certain number across the globe just vanish in an instant. Science will use this machine as the excuse. Thery will tell us that we were right about it causing something to go wrong. They might say that the people that disappeared and the ones that didnt or left behind was due to the individuals particular cellular vibration. |
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chris
Sweden |
10/09/2008 |
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Fear |
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I think taht people are adraid that science will one day, by mistake, show that God does not exist. Increased understanding of the universe leaves less places for magic. |
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shenanigan
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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big bang |
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This is going to "kill the hell out religious belief,if you do not come to their belief if God them the devll going to get you." |
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Arturo
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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critical thinking on the word God |
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Religions are a government sanctioned form of mass compartmentalized psychosis that brainwashed parents allow their defensless children to be brainwashed and programed into in order to perpetuate the insanity and fill the collection plate of the greatest feel good scam in human history. If I said I was a reincarnation of Nepolian they'd institutionalize me but if I said I was divine & immortal via an invisible man running the universe that's perfectly O.K.
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Kamor
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang Machine |
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Scientists are verifying the laws governing the nature of things (signs or ayats of Allah(SWT)) in Allah's created universe. In many places in the Qur,an, Allah (SWT) invites us to investigate, look, see, travel through the earth, etc. Consider the ayat "Do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation) before we clove them asunder? We made from water every every living thing. Will they not then believe? Q(21:30). Investigation NOT proof. |
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Adam
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Reasoning |
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It is easy to understand why the money is being used how it is. Why do u think Africa and such are being neglected? Its because they are useless to the economics of the developed and developing countries. Why try to fix something that cant be fixed? Instead we could be pouring money into technology and who knows. Maybe after this experiment the next experiment could be space travel. And every would rather spend money researching that than burning money.
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GK Cheese
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang |
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Religion ought not to be any consideration here. After all, it was Roman Catholic priest Father Georges Lemaitre who proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, although he called it his "hypothesis of the primeval atom". |
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Ella
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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Bing bang machine |
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I see this experiment as dangerous even if it doesn't send the world into a black hole. Isn't conquering nature enough for man, that he must go on and conquer matter as well. Were the people of this world consulted as to whether we wanted this money, which could have been put to much better use, spent on this experiment? In what way will the outcomes of the experiment serve us? more powerful weapons of mass destruction? |
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anonomys
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Iv'e read all the other feedback letters displayed and i say that this hoopla's got to end, the machine's money could have been spent better yes, but such a scientific and engineering feat is pretty important. But i dont completely think it's disproving GOD but, this seems dangerous so if anything i believe this project should stop. I only have to say so much else, but it's gotta end, NOW. |
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Bobby Burner
Norway |
10/09/2008 |
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end of submission and opium |
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hopefully these type of by-religious-forbidden questionings/experiments/thinkings will get us where the mullahs have no be able to do so. one day we will by thinking/experimenting end submission and opium for the people. and all the mullahs/imams/priests/shamans/clergies/sheykhs/mawlawis/bishops/cardinals/mohabs/vicars/brahmins/munks/rabbi and last but not least THE POPE will be out of job :-) lets continue challenging the opium and the submission. |
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anonomys
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Ok, the machine sounds a little dangerous you have to admit, I mean protons speeding at eachother and smacking into one another at almost light speed, that really has to make you jump or something right? The scientists working on this should at least find some kind of "invinsible material" in case, GOD forbid, any little anything happens except for the experiment being A- O.K. and all goes perfectly well. |
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Marc
Germany |
10/09/2008 |
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Knowledge is more important than money |
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Think how much money is used in needless things such as military budgets.
USA spends >400 billion $, every citizen could get health insurance.
Basic research is necessary if mankind should survive. Curiosity is esential for development. |
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Ahmed from Bahrain
Bahrain |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang Machine |
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Humans are curious and it is great. It ahs led us to be where we are today. They also say curiosity killed the cat, but hey fellas, we are not felines!
To believe that Big Bang created us through accident is to believe that Hurricane Katrina went thro some junk yard and a perfect jumbo plane come out the other side!
Question: Was this intricate universe planned? if so, then who was behind it? Love. |
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Serge
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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Whats god gotta do with it ? |
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A citation of Dr. House : Do you think god cares about what you put into your digestive track ?
I believe in Donald Duck. It doesn't make it real. People invented god because they're afraid of dying. Bad news : you'll die anyway.
Science is the only way to understand reality. We can stop spending money because some people are starving. But the we'll have to go back in cave. Science is not responsible for bad politics and the economic system, totally independant matters that should not be mixed |
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Frank
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11/09/2008 |
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Disprove Existance of God? |
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If we were ever able to do that and have people believe that was the truth, man this woud be one beautiful world, pretty sure middle east would be more stable and our retarted president (who i didnt vote for) wouldnt be a religious freak!!!! Look around you most of the wars fought are due to religion, we started going down hill as a beings once we devoted ourself to a supreme being you know some dude up there calling all the shots when we die and our born. |
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Yahya
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11/09/2008 |
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Sound Bytes |
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RE: The LHC report.
Please avoid using sound bytes like "God particle" or "big bang machine." It is sound byte centric media that's causing enough trouble. Let AJE not be one of them. |
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Ken
United States |
11/09/2008 |
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Bang Bang |
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Best of success to science. This could have happened in the US, but the Democratic US Senate thought it would be wasteful spending. |
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Logic and Reason
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11/09/2008 |
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RE: Richard Faith
Proof of God or the eternal existing force that has no begining or end.
U arrive home, open ur front door and go inside - ur posessions are all gone.
A. Do u deduce they were stolen and call the police.
B. Deduce that nothing moved them and this happens every day and u simply replace them.
If u do B. Then u truly do not believe in God.
If u do A. Why r u looking for the cause to that effect - since something can come from nothing. |
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omer
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10/09/2008 |
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is it worthy enough! |
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Is this project worthy enough to those people dying of hunger!
$5.2bn how many could have it helped ?
Think! |
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joe parker
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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TO Mr. Hameed - I don't see anything here that comments on God's existence in one light or another. We're naturally curious beings, shouldn't that be celebrated?
And: Is CERN a waste of money? Is any scientific endeavour? Imagine a world without fertilizers, antibiotics, electricity and sanitation... In Europe we called it the Dark Ages, and most people didn't even live to see their grandchildren.
All applied science has a theoretical basis in pure research. CERN is one such project. |
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Saintcute
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang BUM! |
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What if 5.4 bn dollars would have invested on poor & deprived Afghanistan by giving them the basics of life & infrastructure so as to stop terrorism the root cause of hunger & illiteracy ....... |
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Nathan
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10/09/2008 |
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Inter-national War, competition and greed have been the catalyst for scientific technological advancement for far too long.
What a fantasic sign of peaceful international cooperation this is. Scientists from over a hundred nations around the world are involved in this major project, and whatever the outcome, whatever the financial cost, I am a firm believer that this project is already an outstanding success. |
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Richard Faith
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed - part 2 |
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> How does the sun rise at exactly the same spot every morning?
It doesn't. The axial inclination of the earth (discovered scientifically) causes the apparent position of the sun to move north and south throughout the (scientifically discovered) orbit of the earth around the sun each year.
> How are the seas contained on earth without spilling into space
Gravity (discovered scientifically) is a natural process whereby a more massive body pulls smaller ones to it. |
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Richard Faith
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed - part 3 |
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> could not live a second if God merely changes the mixture in the air we breathe.
Who needs God to do that? We're quite capable of doing that ourselves, with our cars, our factories and with most other polluting things we do. If the air *cleaned up* worldwide overnight, I might be inclined to believe there's a God after all.
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Will Brealey
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10/09/2008 |
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War in Iraq - $500bn
Cern project - $5.2bn
If this hammers one more nail into religion's coffin, that's good enough for me. Bearing in mind the financial and human cost of religious dogma. |
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Jonathan
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10/09/2008 |
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Here we go |
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What an extreme waste of time, resources, and money. People are dying all around the world and all these so call geniuses can think to do with there time is play with a glorified sling-shot. |
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yoghart
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10/09/2008 |
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Australia Pia & Chris have an opinion of what we believe is not to mess with nature the way it is, we are blessed already, & that's when bigger things will crash & burn & Gaia will roll her eyes, & splash fire on her beloved earth, she created us with love & natural simplicity then MAN comes along with his little experiment, because he supposedly knows a hell of a lot better. we are just Earth alien's conducting experiments upon our ourselves. and experiencing the devastating after blows, WHAT |
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m
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10/09/2008 |
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this experiment proves nothing but strengthens the belief of God, because as usual scientists can prove what happens causing the big bang etc, but they have no proof for what happened before, even a millisecond. What does show, there is a God and theirs nothing anyone can do to disprove this. |
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M. Gagnon
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10/09/2008 |
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Life, the universe and everything |
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First, fundamentally science and faith should be kept separate. Science dealing with what is observable, testable and can only disprove hypothesis. Faith is dealing in things that can not be disproved and therefore fall outside the real of science.
Second, experiments although expensive, can help us discover things which may benefit humankind in the long term. The money might have put a band-aid on a lot of problems but a major discovery could, for example, solve the world's energy crisis. |
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m
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10/09/2008 |
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yes, we can alter alot of things, cos we humans are stupid and dont care bout the environment, including myself, but havent u ever thought that how is it possible that we have enough gas composition for us to live. such co2 for photosynthesis, o2 for respiration etc. Also our body function is too complicated, so for us to exist there has to be a God. What non-beleivers tend to do is put alot down to coincidence. Just like when you put a long row of dominos 2gether and they fall, wud u say... |
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anis
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Hadron collider or hard-on to believe? |
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Scientist are what they are, but some time forget why they were scientist and who allowed them to be at the first place. It is like water in a clear glass cap, The water is gone, the glass remains. What most some time overlook, is that Allah Needs but not a big-bang, if some one believes in Allah's powers, he knows well that matters come to existence under Allah's specific orders: Be so it is. Allah Allows these said scientist, so they can understand and recognize how much Allah Loves us. |
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Peter
Australia |
10/09/2008 |
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A Turning Point |
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Yes it is true that this initiative has cost a lot of money but its been relative over 20 years. And i would say in terms of its benefit, wait and see. Despite it's purpose for proving or disproving the higgs boson theory, CERN are hoping to use the project for other initiatives such as alternative, cleaner energy sources and other such breakthroughs. What's more if higgs boson is proved right, its a real turning point scientific theory. I can't wait to see the result... in 15 months. |
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Poyan
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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Big "Bung" Theory |
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This science experiment (or any others) does not seek to disprove the existance of god. That was already done by philosophers in ancient Greece.
Religious pople have just had trouble letting go of their ancient beliefs. |
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Ali
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10/09/2008 |
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Comments to Mohamed Hameed |
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Allah (God) “SAJ” is not a magician. Allah created the Universe and beyond. He used what seems to us “natural phenomena”. Scientific advancements are a good thing for Human Kind. They bring us closer to Our Creator – Allah. This is the reason Alllah prescribed “Learning for Mankind” as evidenced in Allah’s first and last attempt in the first word of His last message: “IQRA” which literally means READ.
I say “BarakAllaho” to all the folks of CERN. They are GREAT.
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Alvin Gromitch
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed - part 4 |
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Wow you've either been completely brainwashed or you are much better off staying in that hole you've been living in since birth...
Just possibly, you should give up your armed struggle and pick up a book besides the one preaching god...I'm no messiah, but that would be an INTELLIGENT idea. I can't believe you would coorelate science to something completely irrelevant.
I think more money was spent on the war in Iraq than on this machine. Advancing science is not neccessarily a bad thing! |
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raylan
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10/09/2008 |
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large hadron collider |
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One thing is certain and that is that Science is great and supercedes religion when the two are put side by side. However 5bn is obscene with even hunger that exists. The military and then big business reaps first,Joeblow just pays the taxes of such events. |
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Alex
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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Large Hadron Collider |
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I am a man of faith, and I can't seem to find any passage in the Hebrew scriptures, the New Testament or the Qur'an of the form: "And lo, the Lord sayeth that the Higgs Boson is unclean, and must not be seen by they eyes of man, lest they be cast into the pit of weeping and gnashing of teeth". Mahomed Hameed: From your name I'm guessing you follow Islam, which makes your ignorance particularly disappointing, given Islam's strong tradition of fostering scientific development. |
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asrar
United Kingdom |
10/09/2008 |
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Islam is never against science - part 3 |
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chapter 2 : 164 "(to guide) those who use their reason, there are many signs in the structures of the heavens and earth, in the constant alternation of night and day, in the vessels which speed across the sea carrying goods that are of profit to people, in the water which Allah sends down from the sky and thereby quickens th earth after it was dead, and disperse over it all manners of animals and in the changing courses of winds and the clouds pressed into service between heaven and earth" |
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Ayub
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang Experiment. |
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The idea sounds great and maybe we will lknow more about the earth:I just have one question,towards which poor country is this thing facing?If it is 300ft underground and if it were to explode or something goes wrong where is it heading?I guess that's 2 qtions.Hopefully everything goes well and it doesn't blow up prematurely because the muslims might be blamed for it.Please make sure there aren't any Muslims living in the area.Thankyou.. |
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Concerned
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10/09/2008 |
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...but this research is probably being used to develop a new kind of WMD. |
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frans
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10/09/2008 |
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false science |
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I think we need not be afraid if a group of people claiming to be "scientists" are trying to validate their scepticism. True science is founded upon truthful principles not man's "reason" which is lacking and dry without life. Let them pursue their quest just like their predecesors who failed to make sence of their science falsely so called science. |
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Moamer
Jordan |
10/09/2008 |
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This is a monumental project. The LHC has the potential to change the way we look at the universe. It is very exciting. I do not believe it is a 'waste of money'.
People have wasted much more money
on things such as wars. One in particular comes to mind. It cost more than a trillion dollars.
Think what you could do with a trillion dollars...
One thousand billion....
One million million. |
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Aliyu Tukur
Nigeria |
10/09/2008 |
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all the big bang scientist are crazy |
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The project has no benefit to humanity in all respects, it is simply a waste of time, energy & resources.
It can not change history and neither can it change the future.
We are simply humans, descendants of Adam & Hauwa. (Eve) |
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sami abdussamad
Qatar |
10/09/2008 |
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brother u know in quran at every
instant i think in almost every chapter god ask us to look the nature n to think n learn from it "verily for those who think there is clear evidence.." true v dont know many secrets of him but he have given us the freedom to think n learn. n this exp. will just prove the existence of god. no ONE can say all this happened on it own there should be some GREAT force behind it to makesuch a tiny higgs in to this universe which seems to be boundless (to us) |
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Jan Khan
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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The big Bang theory |
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The Qur'an on the Origin of the Universe:
The science of modem cosmology, observational and theoreti¬cal, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).' This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modem cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that 'smoke' (see figures 10 and 11). The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was |
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Jan Khan
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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The big bang theory continued part 3 |
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(Qur'an, 21:30)
Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the world's renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany. He said: "Thinking where Muham¬mad came from ... I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin |
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Jan Khan
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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The big bang theory continued part 4 |
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of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case."2 Also he said: "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.”1
(1) The First Three Minutes, a Modern View of the Origin of the Universe, Weinberg, pp. 94-105. |
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Jan Khan
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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The big bang theory continued part 5 |
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(1) The First Three Minutes, a Modern View of the Origin of the Universe, Weinberg, pp. 94-105.
(2) The source of this comment is This is the Truth (videotape). Visit www.islam-guide.com/truth for a copy of this videotape or to view the video clips of Professor Alfred Kroner's comments online.
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rachel c
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10/09/2008 |
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i think scharad, m@ & simon summed it best. its unfortunate that so much money is spent on this when there are better things i can think of to spend it on (iraq, cure for malaria etc) that said however this could potentially lead to something huge & science has always taken that step for humanity so we can only hope that it does lead to say solving the world's energy crisis. i also think you can believe in God and in science theres nothing wrong with that either. |
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RAGA
United Arab Emirates |
10/09/2008 |
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For Mahomed Hameed |
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From where you get this crazy idea that this research may falsify the existence of God. Have your holy book ever contradict any scientific findings? All Muslims knew all the recent scientific findings have strengthen their faith on GOD, coz, it’s would have been already mentioned in the Quran. Would anyone believe till some time back that moon was spited into half and joined together again by act of GOD as mentioned in Quran? But well.. you know the recent research affirm that. wait n watch |
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Lazarus1956
Afghanistan |
10/09/2008 |
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Scientists start big bang machine |
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Sounds like an interesting project, which deserves more detail than what this article has room for. It sounds like Peter from Australia has done some research on the subject. Alternative energy? We could definately use that. What else can this thing do? |
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Davis
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10/09/2008 |
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To Burhan, m@, omer |
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Yes $5.2 bn could have been spent on other worthy projects such as curing, possibly, a disease or two or perhaps, helping starving people, yes. But when crops fail due to soil erosion or insect blight, or when a disease appears that must be cured we turn to science based solutions. Electricity, anti biotics, anti virals, solar power, soil reconstruction...all of these are improved because at some point we spent money on research. |
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Sylvain
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10/09/2008 |
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Proud to be human |
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I am very proud to be living these days where an international federation of human beings have built an experiment that goes so far into deepening our understanding of matter, space and time!
@M. Gagnon: on what grounds should science and faith be kept apart? Clearly, there are cases where they contradict each other, like e.g. the creation of life and of our species. It takes quite a lot of doublethinking to believe that the different theories in this matter are equally sensible... |
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Dave
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10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang |
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I have no problem with the Big Bang representing the beginning of creation but how do we know it wasn't God behind it to begin with? What happened BEFORE the Big Bang? That's what I want to know. |
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Omar
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Large Hadron Collider |
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God is great indeed. This project, which may help explain the existence of the universe is no small task, and the risk is reasonably small when compared to the amount of answers the project could present us with. Humans are weak and hopeless without God's power and will- and God has always willed that we reflect on his creation and on his wonders.
Omar
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Luke
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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LHC - waste of money and time? I disagree |
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In response to the argument that spending roughly 5 billion on this experiment is a waste I would like to remind everyone that the United States spends roughly that much on its war in Iraq every week. As for the claim that this experiment has no foreseeable use , while that is true at the moment, I would advise everyone to recall the investments made previously in electronics, radiation, and nano technology that have paid off with life saving technologies. |
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John Earls
Peru |
10/09/2008 |
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LHC cost and Lehman |
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Yes, $5.2 billion is a lot of money to be spent over 20 years, and it could have fed a lot of people. Lehman Bros ditched $4bn in just 3 months and noone asks what that could have been spent on. The LHC is going to clear up (hopefully) a lot of muddles in fundamental physics, and the "spin-off" could well lead to cheap clean fusion energy. This would benefit the whole planet and indirectly to better feeding for everyone. What has Lehman's bank contributed to either physics or food?
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Emmanuel
Nigeria |
10/09/2008 |
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The Big Ban Machine |
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Waoo mankind. But God created the whole earth. He is infinite, omnipotent, omniscient and above all He is God. How else do you explain his Hands in my life? |
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arbguy
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10/09/2008 |
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the money issue |
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For all those who criticize this project because of the money it costs, then I would suggest that you direct your money concerns towards the amount that is spent on military each year (this applies particularly to the americans). After all, the amount that is spent to destroy, kill and torture innocent people vastly overshadows the meager five billion which is spent towards improving our knowledge of the universe. |
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Emeka
Nigeria |
10/09/2008 |
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Block Buster Movie
That's what I call this latest waste of resources that would be better deployed to causes that advance the progress of humanity.
All this effort to disprove the existence of God is nothing but a silly blockbuster movie that will end up as mere entertainment for those of us who see through the stupidity in this.
As godlessness spreads, so will mankind continue to wallow in such fruitless ventures. God exists. It is not just about faith but reality. |
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GK Cheese
Canada |
10/09/2008 |
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Big Bang |
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Hoyle may have coined the term big bang but Roman catholic priest Father Georges Lemaitre proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, although he called it his "hypothesis of the primeval atom". |
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Alexander Lennox
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11/09/2008 |
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Big Bang |
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The Big Bang is a figment of mans imagination, it never happened, therefore it cannot be recreated.
The attempt to recreate the big bang will no doubt turn out to be a 5 billion dollar damp squib.
It is amazing to what lengths men will go to trying un-god the universe. The world is hanging over a financial precipice by its finger nails whilst more than five billion dollars is being squandered on pseudo science, this experiment, beggars belief.
Romans 1:22 professing themselves to be wise |
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Yaruj
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11/09/2008 |
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This is all wrong |
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what they are doing is wrong they might make everything go wrong they might make a new planet but, in the process destroy Earth and become a new planet.The two Earths might crash together and destroy each other..........there is a possibility it might not happen but it might harm us that's all I know |
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Melissa
United States |
10/09/2008 |
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Messing with the unknown |
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I understand you guys are scientist and all, but it just doesn't feel right. What's next, try to figure out a way to live forever?This is something that will never be explained.Instead on spending all this money on a gadget, spend it on something that is going to make a diffrence on human lives while we are still alive.You are playing with fire and as a result we will all get burned.You are a bunch of "Mad Scientist" in my opinion. |
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Jacob P.
United States |
11/09/2008 |
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" GOD Has Created " |
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First of all I am a Christian and I totally agree with Hameed.God did create the earth and YT Your so called " Quran " may say that but my BIBLE says God created not evoulitionized anything. Richard Faith you should belive in GOD because Your last name is faith. If we didn't have faith we coudn't even eat soup without safety. |
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Ethiopian Orthodox
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10/09/2008 |
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GODless |
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first off all, i dont understand why on earth they spend 5. billions dollars, i want to say one thing "there is a GOD who can judge and this people came from no where and trying to say the earth will end, how can some one say this words. This means people are GOD and thats stupid things to say".
please next time give the money for africa and others places they are people down there they left with anything. plus Only GOD can Judge ok u scientists people. From Copthic orthodox |
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S. Janveau
Guyana |
11/09/2008 |
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Global Terrorism |
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Instead of the scientists wasting their time on trying to find out how the earth was formed they should use their time and energy to save the world from all the problems we are facing. Ask them to create a cure for a disease or something instead of useless 5.4 billion dollar experiment… If they devoted their time to saving the earth rather than destroying it, so
many of our problems would be solved.
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yusof
Philippines |
10/09/2008 |
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Not Blasphemy |
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I disagree Mahomed Hameed's comment about the project. For me, there's no such scientific project that would disprove the existence of God. In fact, this project, if succeed, will prove the credibility of Qur'an and Islam. Just like the theory of human evolution in the mother's womb which is mentioned in the qur'an, the big bang according to mahomed is also mentioned in the Qur'an. Instead thinking that this project will lead to blasphemy, why not think it is a science that upholds faith. |
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Jan Khan
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10/09/2008 |
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Why big bang theory? |
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In the Qur’an:
(Qur'an, 21:30)
Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the world's renowned geologists. "Thinking where Muhammad came from ...
Also he said: "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin." |
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Kamilah Sayyidi
United States |
11/09/2008 |
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Funny Funny. |
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To Joe Parker.
Europe was in the Dark Ages and still is as far as I am concerned. During and before the so called Dark Ages for Western Society: Eastern, African, and Latin American civilizations were at one of their highest times.
If you have Faith, you would reread the story of Adam(atom) and Eve and see where curious minds have left us.
Everything has a limitations, including humans, but some humans have naturally-haha- or more like unaturally held lofty ambitions to play god... |
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Ahmed Tariq Popalzai
Afghanistan |
11/09/2008 |
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Existence of God |
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All religions have proved that (almighty God) exists & God is able to destroy our world and what ever we have made with the help of science, in minutes.
In same time God has given us mind & the ability to research or explore the universe in different ways.
Science is not something wrong but spending a large amount of money on this kind of result less experiments is not good.
They could have saved thousands of life with the help of this money. people are dying beacuse of not haveing food. |
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Jonas
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11/09/2008 |
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5.2 billion versus 518 billion |
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The CERN funding is spaced out over 13 years, amounting to around half a billion dollars per year. The US Military recieved 518 billion dollars in 2008 alone. The military budget of the EU the same year was 293 billion dollars. Gives you some perspective and makes you wonder how many diseases and how much starvation could be prevented if we shifted some of THOSE funds instead of critizising what could bring the greatest breakthroughs in physics for a very long time. |
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sarwar kamal
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11/09/2008 |
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Big bang |
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Experiment under going to discover God-atom may uncover mystery of substance that is very particle of creation.I wish we may find new beam of light in the long run. |
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Tenagaren Narayanan
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13/09/2008 |
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Its a great idea to explore further in the field of nuclear physics and it is true that this discovery is equivalent to the discovery of electricity and others. How does this universe began ? and further there will be no harm from this experiment after all we are further remodeling the theory of albert einstain's .......which is great |
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Gary
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13/09/2008 |
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Our questions arent big enough |
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It's good we find out more about how the universe began. But it leaves open questions of 'why'. For that matter, what came before the Bang? At this point, our theories don't even go there. |
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13/09/2008 |
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Big Bang Machine |
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The LHC and the scientists working on this project do not wish to prove or disprove the existence of God, rather they seek to understand how God created the universe and everything in it. My hope is that more of my Muslim brothers would embrace modern scientific process to be at the cutting edge of scientific discovery as they were while europe lived in darkness. |
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Kurt
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15/09/2008 |
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Big bang and mayan prediction |
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This sounds dumb but the news says that this machine was started up this month and said that it would take approximately 50 months to create a black hole if possible , in 50 months is December,21 2012 precisely the time when mayans predicted the world would come to an end... this is a scary coincidence don't you think.... |
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thunder lightening
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15/09/2008 |
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atom |
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Splitting and atom was powerful. Part of the split of an atom is a proton (unit of light rovolving around a neutron). Scientists send freed protons on a merry go round to see what happens. In the beginning there was light. No we will not go into a black hole. we will discover something smaller than a proton. |
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kristian svensson
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16/09/2008 |
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hope the scientists now will found out that the fact is that earth and all other planets in universe is GROWING.. a fundamental issue in pysics that Nikola Tesla even thaught.// cheerio world. climapolis |
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Joe
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14/09/2008 |
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For M@Canada |
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"The reality is they have no idea what will happen, otherwise there would be no point in proceeding with this EXPERIMENT!"
Actually, experiments are made when you DO have an idea what will happen, and the experiment is for the purpose of proving or disproving your idea.
For the non-Godless: This experiment has nothing to do with disproving God. Why is it that advancing knowledge is always seen as an offense to God? Do you think that God would prefer stupidity in his creations? |
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udomi
Nigeria |
15/09/2008 |
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The Bible made it clear that"In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth"
Whether it was via the "big bang" or not, He Just Did it by His Wisdom and this is unquestionable. The big bang might as well be called " the gentle vioce" the ward of God, the active move of the Holy Spirit, The Spoken ward and probable "the love of God" prepering way for his creation-Man.
Lets wait to see the mechines result, I know that no true scientfic findings disproofs GOD. |
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Danyel
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30/09/2008 |
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"Big Bang Machine" |
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Ok..First off there is nothing any of us can do to stop this..its going to happen. And for two..do you understand how many other studies like this one have been done that WE dont know about..? Even ones we do know about..HELLO Atomic bomb of 1940's was suppose to kill all living things right?..ALSO...if you have faith it shouldnt change the way you feel..no matter what this test does..and if it does end the world..well i guess that would be it. Nothing you can CHANGE! |
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